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So I picked up a (actually two but other is for parts) used Matsuura MAM-600HF horizontal machining center. Have power hooked up. Machine starts with only one alarm '3000: return to zero position each-axis'. So that all seems good.
None of the axis will move, not in zero, hot in handle, nor jog or rapid. I can't help but think there is some type of special sequence to perform the zero return, holding some button at the same time as another or something. Manual just says to go to zero return mode and move each axis to + direction. Matsuura seems to be out of ideas. Methods didn't return my calls. Other tidbits: Yasnac I80 has three alarm screens still only alarm is 3000 No alarms on any of the servo drives Phase is correct (verified by one coolant pump that wasn't disconnected for the move) Air pressure is good (it does have an alarm for that if it's not) Hydraulics have pressure Not sitting on over travel switches Buttons and switches are being registered in diagnostics Some machine functions do work, tool release, 4th axis lock/unlock Any ideas? Anyone out there run one of these before?
Any quirks to a zero return? Thanks for the suggestions. I've been wondering about something with the APC as well. It has manual controls and everything seems to be set properly.
It will throw alarms when I try to make it do things it doesn't want to. Guess I'll start by making sure all the switches I can find are functional. Not sure if it matters but the toolchanger is a swing arm with a matrix style magazine with a two axis 'robot' to fetch the tools. I did get the swing arm out of position at one point and that thru an alarm until I corrected it.
The 'robot' servos use absolute encoders. Those were throwing alarms until I went thru the process of zeroing them.
I think I'll start digging into the APC a bit more. I have a Matsuura Vertical, if left for a couple days my tool change arm will drop down and I have to poke a soliniod up top to get the arm back up. Nothing moves till I do. Then I select machine home or zero postion,hold all three axis buttons in the plus direction till all three home lites come on. I am not in the shop right now,but man that 3000 alarm sound familiar, I don't even read it now,just stab soliniod and go.
Nother thing,axis s need to be at least a couple inchs from home before you send them there. Just saw this now.
I have one of these machines, the only things I have found that prevent moving the axis in hand wheel mode are lack of servo power (you are pressing the NC power on button a second time after the NC boots up right?) and axis overtravel, which there is an alarm for. If you overtravel an axis you need to hold the NC power on button while you handwheel it off the limit switch. Do you have any interest in parting out your second machine?
Do you know if it has a 180 or 240 tool base? Spent most of the day yesterday working on the machine and talking with Matsuura tech support (been very helpful and accommodating). Not sitting on an overtravel, on my machine those are tied into the estop cricuit so you don't get a specific alarm just a general estop alarm.
That trick with the to get it off the switch will be handy, thank you. Had to spin the screw by hand initially. We were to get the machine to move but only by enabling interlock neglect (parameter 7090.0). So something is differentially interlocking it but we haven't been able to sort out what. I can turn on interlock neglect and zero the machine which removes the only alarm I have (3000). If I turn neglect back off I can't move the machine again.
The ladder print out I have doesn't match the machine and I've found at least four different serial numbers in the box of 'documentation' that came with them. Matsuura quoted me $450 for new manuals for the specific SN. Not to bad I guess. Tried to order them on Tuesday but I waited more than 30 days so they are having to go back to Japan to get a requote. Suspecting something in the tool transfer gantry.
One of the pivots doesn't seem to be rotating properly so wrenching on that at the moment. I may part out the second one but not yet. At this point it is still a complete machine less the 5 parameter batteries that were removed. They are both 180 tool bases. So if I am understanding this correctly the servo's ARE energized, and you can't move them? If you go to MDI can enter something like 'T12' and then cycle start, does the tool robot go fetch T12 and stage it for the tool change arm?
If not will it do it with the interlock neglect parameter set? I am pretty sure if the robot is out of condition you get an alarm for it, and I think you can still move all the axis anyways. I do have a procedure for resetting the robot if you need it, its hand written but its fairly simple to follow I think, I wrote it for my operators to be able to follow. If you decide to part out the other machine let me know, I wouldn't mind some spares Do you have any interest in selling the pallets on the parts machine? If you need any other help you can shoot me a pm and I'll give you my number, some of this stuff might be easier to figure out over the phone. Haven't had to much time to work on her the last few days but made a bit of progress this morning. Yes servos are powered and the only alarm I have on start up is 3000: Needs zero return (or something to that affect).
Nothing will move. If I turn on interlock neglect then I can jog/handle/zero all axis. However once I turn interlock neglect back off I can't move again. My machines are 93's maybe they hadn't gotten around to adding specific alarms for everything yet? Was having some transfer arm/gantry/robot hydraulic issues but those are sorted now.
So when I start the machine I have to turn on interlock neglect so that I can zero it. With interlock neglect turned on MDI doesn't work. Once I turn interlock neglect back off (after zeroing) MDI will work and the little guy will go fetch the proper tool. Still can't move any axis with interlock neglect turned off. Sorry hoping to make some permanent fixtures on some of the pallets but I can understand why you need to ask.
Have you run your pallet changer yet? Even if its in manual mode? I kind of think you have to turn the interlock neglect on to run it in manual mode anyways. I've run into at least one no alarm issue on my machine before. Unfortunately I don't remember what exactly it was. Now that I think about it, I think I have had two of these issues, one time the tool transfer robot and one time the pallet robot (in the FMS).
I'm interested to find what the issue is. It just seems really weird that the servo's aren't kicking out. Running the pallet changer was on my list but all of the diagnostics bits looked good, according to Matsuura. But I went ahead and ran it around today and sure enough that seems to have done it. Thanks for the kick in the pants to give that a go.
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So still not sure what the actual issue was other than APC related. I do want to say though that Matsuura tech support has been very helpful in dealing with this 20 year old machine.
Especially when you consider that the Mats tech has probably had very little experience with a machine of this vintage (Methods was the US support until a year or two ago). Now I need to get the tool magazine all dialed in and aligned.
Need to do a final leveling too. Then I need to start buying tooling which isn't fun anymore once you have to pay for it yourself. Matsuura MAM 600 HF I80 Controler Hello, is seems you are very specialists in Matsuura problems. Is anybody able to help with referencing the tooling robot (120 pocket rack system) as I know it has to set at pocket 15. Fail: At the back panel it is possible to move the robot only by swivel switches after service switches on into cabinet. The robot do not carry or bring back tools by command at outside push buttons. In MDI T5 M6.
The spindle moves up to change pos. And is waiting- ATC LED is blinking ( tool change in action) At backside panel Tool request is blinking too. No Errors occur even at ext2 The machine has moved to another company; as I arrived to setup the tool changer was on end switch so I suggest, the transporter hasn't locked the robot that is has moved and probably lost its position. Now the limit error occur at pocket 3 in downward direction. Pardon for any spelling mistkes.
Thank you for your attention. If the ATC robot is sitting on the limit switches, you can push it off them by hand with the power off to the machine. Otherwise, the procedure is something like this: Enable parameter change - Press RUN key, press SETTING soft key, press the next SETTING softkey, select parameter exchange, press WR key. Activate ATC trouble shooting mode - Press MAINT key, type in 7090, press cursor down v key, press right arrow key to put cursor under 4, press WR to change the 0 to 1. Do the same for bit 3 in that row. Deactivate parameter write - Press RUN key, then press WR to turn parameter enable off. At tool matrix side of machine, turn key to 'I' for manual operation.
Move robot with toggle switches to the 'load' position. This is the position where you would manually load a tool into the robot. The load position is approximately 500mm from the machined base that the tool racks mount to, to the bottom of the key on the face of the robot tool pot, and 82.5mm from the side/outside diameter of the robot tool pot to the formed channel that holds the proximity sensor. If the robot is in the correct position, when you turn the key to the '0' position the robot should retract back automatically.
If it does that, then the process is done and you just need to go back to the control and switch the parameters back. If the light stays green there is likely a position problem. Otherwise there should be alarm numbers on the LED display on the tool matrix or on the main cnc control. Other useful things to know: M112 ATC Doors open M111 ATC doors closed If ATC screen on CNC control says there is a tool in the robot, but there isn't one, either use the 'trans arm unclamp' switch on the matrix, or use the 'clear' button.
'Kept Tool' Sometimes the control does not accept the 'CLEAR' button to remove the tool that the control thinks the robot has. Sometimes powering down the machine and powering it back up, and trying the 'CLEAR' button again can fix the problem. Hello Dave, yesterday I did a try, but poor result At tool matrix side of machine, turn key to 'I' for manual operation. Move robot with toggle switches to the 'load' position.
This is the position where you would manually load a tool into the robot. I tried to find it by switching the tool pot to user direction and move the robot at the described pos ( nearby the position where the sensor is looking to). Then i moved the pot some mm in any direction to find the right place. Is it right that the toolpot should retract itself if i switch the key to 0. The load position is approximately 500mm from the machined base that the tool racks mount to, to the bottom of the key on the face of the robot tool pot, and 82.5mm from the side/outside diameter of the robot tool pot to the formed channel that holds the proximity sensor.
Where I can find the clear button to delete any tool ( if some is saved) I realized that the Sensor ( empty pot ) does not work, so I tried it with signal and without- no result. Do you have any sugestions Do you know, is the MP LED liting normal at the amlifier (pic)? At the machine is no Alarm Thank yo in advance Last edited by acweissbrodt; at 11:55 PM. Reason: wrong picture.
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Klaus, that isn't the load position for that machine, I've attached a few pictures of my machine. The position is about 501mm from the bottom of the tang on the tool pot, and about 84mm from the side of the tool pot to the metal channel that holds the proximity sensor. The machine you are working on is a slightly newer version than mine, I believe your machine was made in 1996-1999? So the tool changer is a little bit different than mine. The robot servo pack, all the manuals can be downloaded from thh Yaskawa website, which is very handy. The Yellow light is OK.
Hello Dave, Thank you for your work and the pictures You are right our mchine is year 1996/08 after some tries we got no step forward, except in between a Matsuura technician was 1& 1/2 day at the machine and the customer has to pay round about €3000 for it- with no result. The next offer of Matsuura is to check the robot €5000, no idea if it is guaranteed that it works, then it is nearby the buying price. In between I did the REF setting of both robot servopacks, according the Yasnac manual.
If I call a tool with Tx then I got the Err ' 1900 Seqence Error (#7510). There is a bunch of description what is to check of I/O signals, about 30 steps Unfortunately I do not know where to find the Par showing the step causing the Error. Is it pm7510 or (DGN)#7510 or is it only a general timeout error. Where are the servopack parameters are stored- I have it as paper printout. It is hard to understand for me if there is no hint from Matsuura Germany to keep it running- it seems to be a no capital damage. Any suggestion is wellcome Last edited by acweissbrodt; at 07:48 AM. Reason: spelling mistakes.
I'm hoping someone out there can help. I have a motion problem with my machine and am trying to set parameters so I can see the actual spindle RPM to determine the problem, I'm also trying to turn off the spindle speed check bit to get around the ppoblem. Using the book as a reference I am turning on the parameter set mode. I then change the parameters and as the manual instructs I am turning off the power. After powering up I turn off the parameter change bit and the parameters appear to have been changed but do not actually change any function of the machine.
Our service guy ran into the same problem trying to adjust for backlash. Kitamura has not been able to help and Yaskawa who now takes care of Yasnac service has not been able to help. Any input would be appreciated. If anybody else has this problem let me explain what we found out. Apparently these Yasnac Controls can get themselves into a state where the parameters change but they just don't register.
We figured this out when we had the processor board replaced six months ago. I was down for 3 weeks. Yaskawa actually had the main chassis at thier facility and gave it a good to go and it still wouldn't work in my machine. I got a copy of the original parameters from Kitamura and input them by hand and still no luck. The errors varied but the machine never started. So that I would not need to manually input the parameters again we backed up the parameters and did yet another memory wipe.
We then loaded the parameters via the serial port and the machine started right up. It also now takes parameter updates through the keypad. Don't ask me why, I don't know and Yaskawa can't explain it. So if you are one of the many shops that can't adjust backlash or other critical parameters, just try backing up the system parameters, do a memory wipe and reload the parameters using the serial port and you will probably be able to manually change parameters. Hi, I am Srikrish R from Tamilnadu, India.
I have one used very old VMC machine with YASNAC i80M control. In that machine I lost all the parameters due to bad battery. I am unable to run the machine for the last 4 years. Kindly send me the Option parameters from opm00. Please do the needful immediately. My email ID is:.Updated -Hi, I am Srikrish R from Tamilnadu, India. I have one used very old VMC machine with YASNAC i80M control.
In that machine I lost all the parameters due to bad battery. I am unable to run the machine for the last 4 years. Kindly send me the Option parameters from opm00. Please do the needful immediately. My email ID is: rsrikrish1984@gmail.com.